On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 07:15:07PM +0200, Daniel Mack wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:57:16PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > Hmm, thanks. But things must still go wrong somewhere, otherwise > > > the GFP_DMA32 wouldn't be needed? > > > > Indeed, something must go wrong somewhere. Since Daniel's patch fixed > > the problem by changing the buffer from a streaming mapping to a > > coherent mapping, it's logical to assume that bad DMA addresses have > > something to do with it. But we don't really know for certain. > > Given that - at least for non-64-aware host controllers - we want memory > <4GB anyway for USB transfers to avoid DMA bouncing buffers, maybe we > should just do that and fix the problem at this level? I already started > to implement usb_[mz]alloc() and use it in some USB drivers. You might want to run some benchmarks first to see if it is such a problem. Keep in mind that you would be addressing only the host-side of this: all DMA transfers from the USB controller to the memory. But for any transfer from the user space to the USB device you can't make the <4GB assumption as the stack/heap in the user-land is stiched from various memory areas - some of them above your 4GB mark. So when you write your response to this e-mail, and your /var/spool/clientmqueue is on your USB disk, the page with your response that is being written to the disk, can be allocated from a page above the 4GB mark and then has to be bounced-buffered for the USB controller. Note, I am only talking about 64-bit kernels, the 32-bit are a different beast altogether when it comes to Thought please keep in mind that this issue of bounce-buffer is less of a problem nowadays. Both AMD and Intel are outfitting their machines with hardware IOMMU's that replace the SWIOTLB (and IBM's high-end boxes with the Calgary ones). And on AMD the GART has been used for many years as a poor-man IOMMU. > > But even after all collected wisdom about memory management in this > thread, I'm still uncertain of how to get suitable memory. Using > dma_alloc_coherent() seems overdone as that type of memory is not > necessarily needed and might be a costly good on some platforms. And as > fas as I understand, kmalloc(GFP_DMA) does not avoid memory >4GB. > > Can anyone explain which is the right way to go? Fix whatever makes the DMA address have the wrong value. In the 0x08...00<bus address> address the 0x08 looks quite suspicious. Like it has been used as a flag or the generated casting code (by GCC) from 64-bit to 32-bit didn't get the right thing (I remember seeing this with InfiniBand with RHEL5.. which was GCC 4.1 I think?) It would be worth instrumenting the PCI-DMA API code and trigger a dump_stack when that flag (0x008) is detected in the return from the underlaying page mapping code. If you need help with this I can give you some debug patches. _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
