I have managed to Download / Compile / Install the upgrade, but still no sound, and now i can't log in to Gnome (Xfce still works) http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f31c932fe24d1ad6a8d67189eb2e984f03545be8 i have a VIA VT82xx based onboard card any ideas as to what has gone wrong ? from the log i noticed that the driver version was still 1.0.20 is this correct ? i wonder why that didn't update ? can i force it somehow ? cheers Daniel _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel