On 2009-06-30 17:40, Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:35:00 +0200, > Kurt J. Bosch wrote: >> >> On 2009-06-30 14:53, Takashi Iwai wrote: >>> At Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:31:07 +0200, >>> Kurt J. Bosch wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2009-06-30 07:57, Takashi Iwai wrote: >>>>> At Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:24:14 -0700, >>>>> Paul Vojta wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 01:09:26PM +0200, Kurt J. Bosch wrote: >>>>>>> On 2009-06-28 10:38, Takashi Iwai wrote: >>>>>>>> At Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:39:08 -0700, >>>>>>>> Paul Vojta wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 09:36:42AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: >>>>>>>>>> At Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:03:54 +0400, >>>>>>>>>> Michael Tokarev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [Adding some more Cc's...] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Am I the only concerned about this? My 2.6.30 is still >>>>>>>>>>> silent w.r.t. old good PC speaker beeps, and I wasn't >>>>>>>>>>> able to make it to produce any sound. Yes, as pointed >>>>>>>>>>> out by others there is a control now, in alsa, and I >>>>>>>>>>> can hear ugly and scary beeps from my stereo speakers >>>>>>>>>>> (when they're turned on and when the control is un-muted). >>>>>>>>>>> But that's.. not a solution/answer to the original >>>>>>>>>>> question... ;) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Try 2.6.31-rc1. There was a fix regarding beep frequency. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not necessarily. Based on the OP's original post, as well as his mails >>>>>>>>> to the LKML (Google the subject line to find them), he has a desktop >>>>>>>>> system with external powered speakers connected to a sound card, and also >>>>>>>>> a small PC speaker inside the system case. He wants to hear the beeps >>>>>>>>> coming out of the small speaker, since the external speakers (and/or sound >>>>>>>>> card) are not always turned on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To avoid someone misunderstanding: the beep routed through HD-audio >>>>>>>> can also go to the built-in speaker. It's just mixed up with the >>>>>>>> normal audio output, and the volume is controlled via ALSA mixer >>>>>>>> volume element. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But, once after it's hooked up to the codec, the beep can't be output >>>>>>>> separately to the speaker. It's always with other audio signal to the >>>>>>>> same output target. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or, on some systems (mostly laptops), the beep is hooked up to the >>>>>>>> codec automatically no matter whether you set >>>>>>>> CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP once when the codec chip is initialized. >>>>>>>> So, the behavior depends pretty much on the hardware implementation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I face the same problem as the OP since kernel 2.6.30 on ArchLinux on >>>>>>> a desktop machine. I was able to get beep working through the built in >>>>>>> speaker again by doing a 'modprobe -r pcspkr' followed by a >>>>>>> 'modprobe pcspkr' after sysinit. It seems there is some kind of >>>>>>> struggle goinig on here between alsa and pcspkr. Isn't there any >>>>>>> kernel line or modules configuration option to disable the alsa pc-beep? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hm... apparently not. Probably there should be a module option for this, though. >>>>> >>>>> In the latest sound git tree, you can use "patch" file (passed via >>>>> module option) to specify codec-specific setup. >>>>> It's for 2.6.32, though. >>>>> >>>> Sounds rather complicated to me. :) >>>> ALSA's snd-hda-intel is stealing the beeps allready 'owned' by pcspkr. >>> >>> It just adds another beep input device. >>> >> If that is true both should sound in parallel and then I had to file a bug >> against ArchLinux ? > > It's a feature. If one module stealing functionality from the other an vice versa is a feature now than I think Linux became some kind of funny video game (like pong) now. LoL > >>>> It does >>>> this every time it gets [re]loaded. Doing so while lacking a >>>> configuration option >>>> to disable that behavior is a bug IMHO. >>> >>> There is a configuration option. >>> >> But not for the kernel cmdline, right. ;) > > But you can do it via patch module option (in the later kernel). > Later kernel ? That's why I keep the earlier kernel packages for downgrading. ;) > >>>> (If you use beep to get some alarm >>>> notification from hardware sensors or such you will depend on stereo >>>> speakers >>>> connected and powered on.) Do I miss something ? >>> >>> Yes. >>> >> Patching drivers and building my own kernels again as in the old days ? > > Why not? Do you build all your machines (including type writers ans dish washers) yourself ? :D Have fun ! Cheers kujub _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
