On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 09:31:40AM +0200, Jaroslav Kysela wrote: >>> Unfortunately, driver may use more complex scenarios like: >>> >>> - some hardware requires additional firmware - in this case devices >>> might be created, but they are not useable until firmware is loaded >>> - dynamic device creation at runtime - for example we have an >>> experimental HDA driver configuration code which might change >>> the arrangement of PCM devices on request from the user space >>> >>> I would suggest to wait awhile with some small timeout (0.5 sec?) for all >>> devices to get the usual static arrangement working and handle extra >>> dynamic cases, too. >> >> Wouldn't the real fix be to make sure that the event from hal/udev >> happens after all the initialization has finished, i.e. the device got >> its firmware, all connected layers finished their work etc? Before all >> that, the audio device is not really available, right? > > But even with this extension, the user space should handle dynamic device > reconfiguration (my second example case). The question is, if it makes > sense to handle group of devices per card basis or just take single > devices and dynamically handle device changes. That's another issue IMO, which needs different attention. Signaling audio devices being added (via udev) before it's actually usable is rather a bug than a missing extension, wouldn't you say? Daniel _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel