hi, I've tried to link BitwigStudio to the webapp cables.gl over virmidi. Unfortunately Bitwig Studio only supports rawmidi. What I discovered is that there is a strange slowness when sending data to virmidi caused by snd_rawmidi_drain(). I've posted two tiny, self-contained c apps to: https://gist.github.com/ensonic/c7588b87fa6c1fa94a8f753b1e0aa394 See some examples below. 2 observations: * snd_rawmidi_type() is *not* reporting virmidi as VIRTUAL * snd_rawmidi_drain() takes about 60ms! on virtual vs. less that 0.1 ms on usb midi (I checked all my hw midi and the worst was avg=1ms on physical midi image unitor8) When comparing the implementations: https://github.com/alsa-project/alsa-lib/blob/master/src/rawmidi/rawmidi_virt.c#L173 https://github.com/alsa-project/alsa-lib/blob/master/src/rawmidi/rawmidi_hw.c#L164 I see that the hw one results in an IOCTL which I can see when striking the code and I wonder if this is the root cause? Why is rawmidi_virt.c not used for virmidi? >From poking at snd_rawmidi_open_conf() I have not yet figured where this is decided .... Stefan > amidi -l Dir Device Name IO hw:0,0,0 Scarlett 18i20 USB MIDI 1 IO hw:3,0,0 nanoKEY2 nanoKEY2 _ KEYBOARD IO hw:5,0,0 nanoKONTROL nanoKONTROL _ SLIDE IO hw:10,0 Virtual Raw MIDI (16 subdevices) IO hw:11,0 Virtual Raw MIDI (16 subdevices) # using direct i/o to virmidi - all good > ./rawmidi_oss /dev/midi11 0 Using device '/dev/midi11' without draining write took min= 0.0015 ms, avg= 0.0016 ms, max= 0.0110 ms > ./rawmidi_oss /dev/midi11 1 Using device '/dev/midi11' with draining write took min= 0.0015 ms, avg= 0.0017 ms, max= 0.0101 ms drain took min= 0.0001 ms, avg= 0.0001 ms, max= 0.0008 ms # using snd_rawmidi to virmidi - slow drain operations > ./rawmidi_alsa hw:11,0 0 Using device 'hw:11,0' without draining SND_RAWMIDI_TYPE_HW write took min= 0.0010 ms, avg= 0.0011 ms, max= 0.0056 ms > ./rawmidi_alsa hw:11,0 1 Using device 'hw:11,0' with draining SND_RAWMIDI_TYPE_HW write took min= 0.0016 ms, avg= 0.0040 ms, max= 0.0077 ms drain took min= 55.9951 ms, avg= 60.4330 ms, max= 64.0653 ms # using snd_rawmidi to usb hw - all good > ./rawmidi_alsa hw:3,0 0 Using device 'hw:3,0' without draining SND_RAWMIDI_TYPE_HW write took min= 0.0012 ms, avg= 0.0015 ms, max= 0.0121 ms > ./rawmidi_alsa hw:3,0 1 Using device 'hw:3,0' with draining SND_RAWMIDI_TYPE_HW write took min= 0.0024 ms, avg= 0.0032 ms, max= 0.0110 ms drain took min= 0.0293 ms, avg= 0.0636 ms, max= 0.2277 ms
