On 13-04-08 17:17, stan wrote: > Rene Herman wrote: >> On 13-04-08 12:51, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: >> >> >>> It seems to me that whatever way you look at this, A default value of >>> "MUTE" is really the only safe level for all sound card types. >>> >> Always good to be ignored. How about that card specific "defaults" setup >> that I suggested? > I think this would theoretically work, but it requires creating and > maintaining a database of all sound cards. And if a card is not in the > database, there still has to be a default behavior. ;-) That default would just be "do nothing" -- ie, keep things muted as now. > Perhaps an entry could be added to the .asoundrc or asound.state file > that sets this. Although the main time this is of import is the first > time a sound card is used, so there would have to be a default entry > :-). After that it retains its previous state and is not as important. > > It looks like mute is a reasonable compromise, except for blind users. For all I and most other sensible (and non-blind) people care, it is, but as James said, distributions disagree. Generally, it's possible to provide a set of reasonable "non-mute default" on a per card basis but ALSA is the only one that can do so. I don't believe that creating a default control settings file upon submission of a new driver would be unreasonable. We already have /usr/share/alsa/cards/<card>.conf as well. Keeping it in sync over changes to the driver might be a slight problem. But, like you yourself conclude, in the end just changing nothing is the other option and that's something distribution disagree with. Not I... Rene. _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel