Re: How to annotate USB jacks without jack detection?

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On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:06, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 08:14:24 +0100,
Kai-Heng Feng wrote:

 Hi,

 There are some UAC1 devices come with jacks, but without jack
 detection ability. And many USB/Thunderbolt docks are equipped with
 such USB device.

Userspace like PulseAudio automatically switch to USB audio when they
 gets plugged. However, auto-switching to UAC1 device can be
 problematic because it may not connected to any headset or speaker.

 So I wonder what's the best way to let userspace know the USB device
 is a jack without jack detection ability? Through sysfs or dedicated
 UCM conf?

It's a good question.  AFAIK, that's a long-standing problem, and most
of such devices provide the jack detection via HID, which is,
obviously, a completely different driver.  So, if HID driver actually
creates input devices, we'd need to associate them with the sound card
somehow (likely in user-space).  But I have no clear idea what's the
best approach yet.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the info!
That explains the reason why HP TBT dock can do jack detection under Windows, while it's just a UAC1 device.


Also, I'm not sure whether HID device really gives the right jack
detection event.  A cheap UAC1 device I have here doesn't seem to give
the jack detection but only the mute/volume events, as it seems...

For the HP TBT dock I can see a plug/unplug events, from its USB HID interface.


OTOH, there are some UAC2 devices providing the jack detection in the
USB-audio interface, and they seem work as is of now.

Now I know the event is from its HID interface, let me see if I can hook them together.

Kai-Heng



thanks,

Takashi




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