Re: core: snd_card_disconnect/snd_card_free: hang when card unregistered

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On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:30:25 +0200,
Dexter Travis wrote:
> 
> Takashi,
> 
> Thank you.  That is helpful.  In my case we are embedded deeply enough
> that there is only one application playing sounds so it may be
> possible to improve our user space side to properly close down the
> sound.
> 
> When power comes back I do not need to resume playing the previous
> sound.  From the kernel side is it possible to force the sound to
> abort or stop?

That can be done by calling snd_pcm_stop().  The function needs the
stream locking.  You can use snd_pcm_stop_xrun() instead, although
it's no XRUN, strictly speaking. 

> How do more easily removed sound devices handle this?  For example a
> USB or other hot-pluggable sound device?

In the case of actually removed device, the whole device is gone, and
at re-plugging, a new device gets created, hence no conflicts between
them.  They are two different devices, after all.


Takashi

> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Dexter
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:32 AM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:04:09 +0200,
> > Dexter Travis wrote:
> > >
> > > In my system during certain power events the power rail for the
> > > TLV320AIC3120 goes away and may come back.
> > >
> > > To accommodate this I have added a call to snd_soc_unregister_card as
> > > soon as I notice via GPIO that this power has been removed.  I then
> > > call snd_soc_register_card to re-install the sound card after power is
> > > restored.
> > >
> > > If no sound is playing when the asynchronous power removal occurs this
> > > works fine.
> > >
> > > If a sound is playing one of two things will occur.  In the first case
> > > the sound driver comes back and sound is restored when power is
> > > restored. In the second case my deferred work function which calls the
> > > snd_soc_unregister_card function gets hung and does not return.
> > >
> > > I have traced the difference to the wait_for_completion call in
> > > snd_card_free.  if snd_card_disconnect adds files to shutdown_files
> > > list then wait_for_completion will hang forever.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions on how to further debug this?
> > >
> > > How to force the immediate unregister of the card even if a sound is playing?
> >
> > You can unregister the devices, i.e. they disappear from the
> > user-space.  However, the old stream and the belonging objects are
> > still alive, hence you can't release the resources entirely until the
> > user-space closes and drops the remaining one.  The completion is
> > waiting for the release of those remaining handles.  So, if you try to
> > register again the same objects, it'll conflict.
> >
> > IOW, it'll be really messy if you try to disconnect and release the
> > whole resources temporarily and restore again.  I guess the current
> > best would be to limit a part of components somehow during the
> > temporary absence.
> >
> > The temporary stop of a stream isn't well handled in the core API,
> > admittedly, it's a known problem.  We're considering to introduce a
> > new state, but it's still under evaluation.
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Takashi
> 



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