At Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:27:38 +0100 (CET), Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > At Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:14:34 +0100 (CET), > > Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Rene Herman wrote: > > > > > > > On 21-11-07 17:54, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > > > > > > What about the plan to move alsa-devel to vger? > > > > > Shouldn't we do that soon? > > > > > > > > Jaroslav hasn't yet pointed alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx at vger. > > > > It's a little unfortunate that David wouldn't just transfer > > > > subscriptions as it seems that's where things stalled again. Given > > > > our still recent move from sourceforge it really should be okay to > > > > just move everyone over. > > > > > > > > I noticed that the entirety of people thanking David for setting up > > > > the list consisted of alsa-devel moderators, you and me, and I > > > > suspect most other subscribers don't feel there's actually much > > > > wrong with things as they are today and mostly consider moving again > > > > a nuisance. The one other reaction to the move was a slightly > > > > annoyed reaction about the re-subscribing... > > > > > > I'm playing with idea to redirect alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx to vger and > > > leave current mailing list (which is subscribed to vger now too). So every > > > e-mail to this list will go through vger, and resubscription will be only > > > choice of subscriber. Opinions? > > > > A couple of things: > > > > - the official address (on kernel tree and wiki) should be vger, not > > alsa-project.org, and promote to re-subscribe. > > Changing e-mail address of list is something I don't want. > The official e-mail address for alsa-devel mailing list was always > alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (even in time when this list was on > sourceforge). Unfortunately, vger mailing list does not accept simple > redirected e-mails from alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx so I postponed any > actions. > > > - open alsa-project.org list again. I'll stop list admin works. > > I tried to count some statistics and at the time spamassassin and > mailman filtering rules catch 92% of spam messages coming to alsa-devel. > Unfortunately remaining 8% means 20 spam messages daily (without > moderation). Could moderators confirm this value? The problem is rather the nature of subscribers-only list. It requires approval if any non-list user posts. So when the list is CC'ed, you'll need more approval works and loose the synchronism. BTW, it seems that some my posts have been lost in a day that alsa-devel ML stopped. The above quoted post seems not delivered unless you were on Cc... Takashi _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel