On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:32:18AM +0100, Srinivas Kandagatla wrote: > > > On 17/04/2020 16:35, Stephan Gerhold wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 02:02:08PM +0100, Srinivas Kandagatla wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 17/04/2020 12:24, Stephan Gerhold wrote: > > > > Hi Srini, > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 06:04:20PM +0000, Srinivas Kandagatla wrote: > > > > > QDSP6 Frontend dais can be configured to work in rx or tx or both rx/tx mode, > > > > > however the default routing do not honour this DT configuration making sound > > > > > card fail to probe. FE dais are also not fully honouring device tree configuration. > > > > > Fix both of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I discovered this patch set when QDSP6 audio stopped working after > > > > upgrading to Linux 5.7-rc1. As far as I understand, device tree bindings > > > > should attempt to be backwards compatible wherever possible. > > > > This isn't the case here, although this is not the reason for my mail. > > > > (I don't mind updating my device tree, especially since it is not > > > > upstream yet...) > > > > > > > > I have a general question about the design here. > > > > > > > > I understand the original motivation for this patch set: Attempting to > > > > configure a TX/RX-only DAI was not possible due to the default routing. > > > > In my opinion this is only relevant for the compressed DAI case. > > > > > > > > If we ignore the compressed DAIs for a moment (which can be > > > > unidirectional only), I think we shouldn't care how userspace uses the > > > > available FE/MultiMedia DAIs. We have this huge routing matrix in q6routing, > > > > with 800+ mixers that can be configured in any way possible from userspace. > > > > > > > > In "ASoC: qdsp6: q6asm-dai: only enable dais from device tree" you mention: > > > > > > > > > This can lead to un-necessary dais in the system which will never be > > > > > used. So honour whats specfied in device tree. > > > > > > > > but IMO the FE DAIs are a negligible overhead compared to the routing > > > > matrix and the many BE DAIs that are really never going to be used > > > > (because nothing is physically connected to the ports). > > > > > > Two things, one unnecessary mixers, second thing is we need to know how many > > > FE dais are in the system, which should be derived from the number of dai > > > child nodes. These can potentially be SoC specific or firmware specific. > > > > > > > So there are SoCs/firmwares that just support e.g. MultiMedia1-4 and not > > all 8 MultiMedia FE DAIs? > > > > This all depends on vendor customization to the firmware. > Normally Q6ASM supports up to 8 concurrent streams. > I see, thank you! > > > My plan is to cleanup the BE DAIs as well!, any patches welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > Even if you restrict FE DAIs to RX/TX only, or disable them entirely, > > > > > > I think this is mistake from myside. Alteast according to bindings direction > > > property is only "Required for Compress offload dais", code should have > > > explicitly ignored it. Here is change that should fix it. > > > > > > > This would make the MultiMedia1-3 bi-directional in sdm845-db845c, > > but MultiMedia5-8 would still be disabled. > > > > My question here would then be similar as above: > > Is this an arbitrary selection of a reasonable amount of FE DAIs, > > or actually based on some firmware limitations? > Yes, it is purely firmware limitation. > > > > > As I described in the rest of my mail (below your diff), > > before this patch set it was simple to just expose all 8 FE DAIs. > > At least on MSM8916 all of them work in exactly the same way, > > there is no difference between any of them. > > > > If we list what is working in SoC/firmware in the device tree, > > would I just list all 8 FE DAIs? > > That is the direction, which should also include any dai specific properties > like compressed case. > > > > > Basically I'm still trying to understand why we limit the number of > > FE/MultiMedia DAIs that we expose, when all of them would be working > > fine. :) > I don't think we need to limit this from Linux side, but Its important to > take care of the max allowed Q6ASM dais w.r.t DSP. > I think the approach you added in this patch set makes sense if there are DSP firmwares that offer less FE/MultiMedia DAIs. For the future it would be nice if we could make this less "confusing" by hiding/removing the invalid mixers, e.g. if you have only MultiMedia1 enabled you don't see all the mixers for MultiMedia2-8. For that it doesn't matter if we do it in q6routing (might become quite complex with all the macros there), or in a generic way by walking the DAPM graph as Mark mentioned. I was also thinking if we can somehow restore the default routing in a conditional way, so that you don't need to duplicate the information in the device tree: e.g. right now you need to add &q6asm { dai@0 { reg = <0>; }; }; *and* the routing sound { audio-routing = "MM_DL1", "MultiMedia1 Playback", "MultiMedia1 Capture", "MM_UL1"; }; When I made these changes I needed several tries until I had it correct, because sometimes I forgot one of the routes, sometimes I mixed up some numbers etc. And especially when you add all 8 FE DAIs this becomes really noisy for an information that we could (theoretically) infer only based on the part under &q6asm. I will think about it some more and see if I come up with something nice. Thanks, Stephan > > > --------------------------->cut<--------------------------------- > > > diff --git a/sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6asm-dai.c > > > b/sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6asm-dai.c > > > index 125af00bba53..31f46b25978e 100644 > > > --- a/sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6asm-dai.c > > > +++ b/sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6asm-dai.c > > > @@ -1067,6 +1067,11 @@ static int of_q6asm_parse_dai_data(struct device > > > *dev, > > > dai_drv = &pdata->dais[idx++]; > > > *dai_drv = q6asm_fe_dais_template[id]; > > > > > > + if (of_property_read_bool(node, "is-compress-dai")) > > > + dai_drv->compress_new = snd_soc_new_compress; > > > + else > > > + continue; > > > + > > > ret = of_property_read_u32(node, "direction", &dir); > > > if (ret) > > > continue; > > > @@ -1076,8 +1081,6 @@ static int of_q6asm_parse_dai_data(struct device *dev, > > > else if (dir == Q6ASM_DAI_TX) > > > dai_drv->playback = empty_stream; > > > > > > - if (of_property_read_bool(node, "is-compress-dai")) > > > - dai_drv->compress_new = snd_soc_new_compress; > > > } > > > > > > return 0; > > > > > > --------------------------->cut<--------------------------------- > > > > > > Thanks, > > > srini > > > > > > > all the routing mixers still exist for them. They will just result in > > > > configurations that are not usable in any way. IMO the only thing we > > > > gain by restricting the FE DAIs is that the available mixers no longer > > > > match possible configurations. > > > > > > > > Before this patch set I used a slightly different approach in my device > > > > tree for MSM8916: I kept all FE DAIs bi-directional, and added DAI links > > > > for all of them. This means that I actually had 8 bi-directional PCM > > > > devices in userspace. > > > > > > > > I didn't use all of them - my ALSA UCM configuration only uses > > > > MultiMedia1 for playback and MultiMedia2 for capture. > > > > However, some other userspace (let's say Android) could have chosen > > > > different FE DAIs for whatever reason. We have the overhead for the > > > > routing matrix anyway, so we might as well expose it in my opinion. > > > > > > > > My question is: In what way are the FE DAIs really board-specific? > > > > > > > > If we expose only some FE DAIs with intended usage per board, > > > > e.g. MultiMedia1 for HDMI, MultiMedia2 for slimbus playback, > > > > MultiMedia3 for slimbus capture, > > > > I could almost argue that we don't need DPCM at all. > > > > The FE DAIs are always going to be used for the same backend anyway. > > > > > > > > This is a bit exaggerated - for example if you have a single compress > > > > DAI per board you probably intend to use it for both HDMI/slimbus. > > > > But this is the feeling I get if we configure the FE DAIs separately > > > > for each board. > > > > > > > > I wonder if we should leave configuration of the FE DAIs up to userspace > > > > (e.g. ALSA UCM), and expose the same full set of FE DAIs for each board. > > > > > > > > I think this is mostly a matter of convention for configuring FE DAIs > > > > in the device tree - I have some ideas how to make that work > > > > with the existing device tree bindings and for compressed DAIs. > > > > But this mail is already long enough as-is. ;) > > > > > > > > I also don't mind if we keep everything as-is > > > > - I just wanted to share what I have been thinking about. > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading! ;) > > > > Stephan > > > > > > > > > Originally issue was reported by Vinod Koul > > > > > > > > > > Srinivas Kandagatla (2): > > > > > ASoC: qdsp6: q6asm-dai: only enable dais from device tree > > > > > ASoC: qdsp6: q6routing: remove default routing > > > > > > > > > > sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6asm-dai.c | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++++------- > > > > > sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6routing.c | 19 ------------------- > > > > > 2 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 26 deletions(-) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > 2.21.0 > > > > >