On Wednesday 09 August 2006 23:11, Lee Revell wrote: > On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 23:07 +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote: [snip] > > However, ALSA _has_ defaults for these controls, which I believe are > > usually "off" or "zero". All I'm suggesting is that these defaults are > > plainly suboptimal for emu10k1, and probably other cards to which this > > statement simply does not apply. Shipping defaults is one thing, but > > shipping useless defaults is quite another. We have policy all over > > the kernel for providing "sane defaults" e.g. filesystem mount > > options. > > I think muted is a sane default - the only sane default. Otherwise you > could damage speakers or hearing. Also many devices will be noisier if > unused inputs are enabled. Is it really that hard for users to unmute > the mixer or for distros to create their own config? I think this argument is mostly deflated by the fact that other multimedia-centric operating systems do not ship with controls muted. If hardware is detected, all sliders are set to 50%. I think this is superior. As you pointed out, it probably is best left to distros. I just can't help thinking that there might be some scope for improving the default state of boolean tunables, even if sliders are left at zero. > Also, analog output on my emu10k1 works perfectly with "External > Amplifier" disabled. Interesting, evidence in your favour. It does not work here. It also did not work on the AC'97 in my HP NC6000, which also has External something-or-other and which also defaulted to "off". Took some figuring out. :-) -- Cheers, Alistair. Final year Computer Science undergraduate. 1F2 55 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh, UK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
