The following issue has been ASSIGNED. ====================================================================== <https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=698> ====================================================================== Reported By: moonlite Assigned To: ====================================================================== Project: ALSA - driver Issue ID: 698 Category: PCI - emu10k1 Reproducibility: always Severity: major Priority: normal Status: assigned Distribution: Gentoo Kernel Version: 2.6.9 ====================================================================== Date Submitted: 12-02-2004 02:56 CET Last Modified: 07-18-2006 20:21 CEST ====================================================================== Summary: Random beeps, ticks and clicks Description: Below is what i posted to the gentoo-forums without getting without getting help that solved any of my problems. URL: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=255710&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= --- I have a problem with alsa and my SBLive-card and kernels newer than 2.4.19. All in all it works without error-messages and the sound is pretty nice etc. But every now and then the music i listen to is interrupted for a small period of time (around 0.5s most of the time) and during this time i can't type or move the mouse and an annoying beep comes from my speakers. I am pretty sure that it is some sort of interruption because the few times the interrupts are long i am sure that the music continues from where it were and also, as i said above, i can't type etc during this small period. This seems to happen more during heavy load than under normal load but it still happens a lot at any given time. --- This problem happened with these kernels: vanilla-sources-2.4.20 vanilla-sources-2.4.28 gentoo-sources-2.4.20 gentoo-sources-2.4.26-r12 gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.9-r4 (gentoo-sources are gentoo's own patchsets) Anyway. Since i posted this i've realized that the beeps (and sometimes also clicks/ticks) also happen more frequent during high network-load and not only normal load. Especially the clicking and ticking noise appear more frequent when downloading large amount of data with high transfer-rates. ====================================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pzad - 12-02-04 17:32 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Could you look, if your soundcard shares irq with something ???? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- moonlite - 12-02-04 23:27 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- root@starbase /home/moonlite # hdparm /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount = 0 (off) IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq = 1 (on) using_dma = 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 256 (on) geometry = 65535/16/63, sectors = 117266688, start = 0 root@starbase /home/moonlite # cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 33434343 XT-PIC timer 1: 9798 XT-PIC i8042 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 5473400 XT-PIC rtc 9: 0 XT-PIC acpi 11: 664320 XT-PIC EMU10K1, eth0 12: 287484 XT-PIC i8042 14: 64894 XT-PIC ide0 15: 31 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 ERR: 1 Ok. so i see that my network-card and EMU10K1 is sharing IRQ. Maybe that's the problem? A friend pasted this out of his /proc/interrupts and said it gave him no problems though: < TenOfTen> 9: 7387506 XT-PIC acpi, ehci_hcd, EMU10K1, eth0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- moonlite - 12-02-04 23:54 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok. I tested shutting my network down and it solved all problems. I don't know if this is a bug then? It is a rather strange behaviour that the problem rises when using kernels >2.4.19 but not otherwise. Oh well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- moonlite - 12-03-04 00:23 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I changed the setting in BIOS, setting IRQ 11 to "reserved". I am not sure what that meant but now eth0 is on IRQ 10 instead of sharing with emu10k1 which is good i guess. However that did not help me at all since the random beeps are still there :( CPU0 0: 220060 XT-PIC timer 1: 1245 XT-PIC i8042 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 2 XT-PIC rtc 9: 0 XT-PIC acpi 10: 2871 XT-PIC eth0 11: 1504 XT-PIC EMU10K1 12: 14596 XT-PIC i8042 14: 9839 XT-PIC ide0 15: 31 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rlrevell - 12-03-04 00:35 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Can you provide a detailed hardware description including the motherboard chipset? Is this an AMD64 or VIA KT266 based system? There is a very similar, long standing bug report in the kX forums (Windows driver for emu10k*). This was never really solved and the consensus seems to be buggy hardware. Maybe you have an extreme PCI latency setting or something. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- moonlite - 12-03-04 00:49 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333] 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP] 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) 0000:00:0c.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 0a) 0000:00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 74) It was a while ago that i bought the system so i couldn't recall really, but a fast google told me that it was kt266. Anyway. The problem goes away as soon as i do a "rmmod 3c59x". So really. It has something to do with my networks-card and kernel-versions >2.4.19 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- moonlite - 12-03-04 00:55 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Below is output from lspci -v (should give all latency-data) I have NO idea what an extreme latency setting would be. root@starbase /home/moonlite # lspci -v 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333] Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0 Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: e6000000-e8ffffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: e4000000-e5ffffff Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) Subsystem: Creative Labs SBLive! 5.1 Digital Model SB0220 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 I/O ports at d000 Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 0000:00:0c.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 0a) Subsystem: Creative Labs Gameport Joystick Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 I/O ports at d400 Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 0000:00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 74) Subsystem: 3Com Corporation 3C905C-TX Fast Etherlink for PC Management NIC Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10 I/O ports at d800 Memory at ea000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0000 Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 0000:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 I/O ports at dc00 [size=16] Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 0000:00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 1b) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 I/O ports at e000 [size=32] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 0000:00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 1b) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 255 I/O ports at e400 [size=32] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 0000:00:11.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 1b) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 255 I/O ports at e800 [size=32] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Matrox Graphics, Inc. Millennium G400 MAX/Dual Head 32Mb Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 255 Memory at e4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) Memory at e6000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Memory at e7000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8M] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [f0] AGP version 2.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- moonlite - 12-03-04 01:18 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I did this: setpci -v -d *:* latency_timer=b0 #all cards setpci -v -s 01:00.0 latency_timer=ff #graphics-card setpci -v -s 00:0d.0 latency_timer=ff #network-card It was explained in an article by daniel robbins on ibm.com. I have no real clue to if these values are good or bad in any way. He used it to make sound work when an AGP-card that had agp turned of (thus putting LOTS of data on the pci-bus) would make his soundcard make distorted sound. He wanted to keep his graphics-card and network-card being able to put lots of data on the bus but still making more room for other stuf or something. Anyway. It seems to work pretty ok. But, if anyone has some other, maybe more sensible, values for my pci-latency settings, please post them! :) But for now i'm just glad it all seems to work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rlrevell - 12-03-04 05:30 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- According to Eugene Gavrilov (author of the kX driver) the original OSS driver from opensource.creative.com driver and the Windows driver from creative set the PCI latency to 255. At some point this code was removed. Maybe this needs to be put back. FWIW, other ALSA drivers (RME for example) have code to raise the PCI latency. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- moonlite - 12-03-04 12:28 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- That seems, from my point of view and with my limited knowledge, like a good idea. edited on: 12-03-04 12:28 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jdthood - 09-14-05 16:06 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > I did this: > > setpci -v -d *:* latency_timer=b0 #all cards > setpci -v -s 01:00.0 latency_timer=ff #graphics-card > setpci -v -s 00:0d.0 latency_timer=ff #network-card > > Anyway. It seems to work pretty ok. Any progress on this issue on the ALSA side? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rlrevell - 03-22-06 03:17 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Any improvement with later ALSA versions? Is the setpci hack still required? Issue History Date Modified Username Field Change ====================================================================== 12-02-04 02:56 moonlite New Issue 12-02-04 02:56 moonlite Distribution => Gentoo 12-02-04 02:56 moonlite Kernel Version => 2.6.9 12-02-04 17:32 pzad Note Added: 0002687 12-02-04 23:27 moonlite Note Added: 0002699 12-02-04 23:54 moonlite Note Added: 0002700 12-03-04 00:23 moonlite Note Added: 0002701 12-03-04 00:23 moonlite Note Added: 0002702 12-03-04 00:23 moonlite Note Deleted: 0002701 12-03-04 00:35 rlrevell Note Added: 0002703 12-03-04 00:49 moonlite Note Added: 0002704 12-03-04 00:55 moonlite Note Added: 0002705 12-03-04 01:18 moonlite Note Added: 0002706 12-03-04 05:30 rlrevell Note Added: 0002707 12-03-04 12:27 moonlite Note Added: 0002708 12-03-04 12:28 moonlite Note Edited: 0002708 09-14-05 16:06 jdthood Note Added: 0006172 03-22-06 03:17 rlrevell Note Added: 0008807 07-18-06 20:21 pzad Assigned To pzad => ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. 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