Enjoyed the off-topic discussion. Can't speak for other ones but the Ohio Turnpike ones were paid off early ans reissued to widen it from two to three lanes in each direction. The raised tolls and forced? trucks off the turnpike onto taxpayer funded funds. Accidents and fatalities increased dramatically. Tolls were lowered. SOme trucks came back As I said I enjoyed it. Now you want to talk about runways, taxiways etc.? Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "David MR" <damiross3@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: Re: BAA and toll roads > Weren't these all built under the premise that there would be tolls until > the bonds used to build them were paid off? Just like the the idiotic > politicians said the tolls would apply to the Golden Gate and other San > Francisco area bridges just until the bonds were paid off. That, my dear > friend, happened years ago yet the tolls are not only still here but are > increasing again. > David R > Becuase it's off topic, I will shut up about this now. > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Allan9 <exatc@xxxxxxxxxx> >> If I'm not mistaken I think you'll find the turnpikes they are talking >> about >> are quasi-privately owned roadways not the Interstate system as we know >> it. >> Examples would be the Ohio Turnpike, Indiana Turnpike. Pennsylvania >> Turnpike >> and possibly the Illinois Turnpike(s). >> Al >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "RWM" <RWM@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:43 AM >> Subject: Re: BAA and toll roads >> >> >> > Herman R. Silbiger wrote: >> > >> >> Allan9 wrote: >> >> >> >>> Herman >> >>> I'd like to discuss one of your statements. >> >>> The Ohio Turnpike was built by revenue bond issues. Not one cent of >> >>> taxpayer money was used to build, operate and/or maintain it. >> >>> All funding comes from the tolls (we) paid not from taxes. The Ohio >> >>> Turnpike Commission operates it. >> >>> Al >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herman R. Silbiger" >> >>> <hsilbiger@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:10 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: BAA and toll roads >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> We have toll roads because people don't want to pay taxes to pay for >> >>>> the roads. >> >>>> >> >>>> Our infrastructure is crumbling because we don't want to pay for >> >>>> maintenance. >> >>>> >> >>>> Don't blame the politicians, blame the voters. The politicians have >> >>>> found that no matter what they stand for, as long as they promise to >> >>>> cut taxes people will vote for them. >> >>>> >> >>>> Herman >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> That's what I said. "We have toll roads because people don't want to >> >> pay >> >> taxes to pay for the roads." You agree with me. >> >> >> >> Herman >> >> >> > >> > >> > Except we may soon have toll roads due to the sale and lease-back via >> > tolls and user fees of roads originally built with federal, state and >> > local funds, whose right of way may even have been acquired via >> > emminent >> > domain. >> > >> > - RWM