Alireza Maybe we need to clarify what you describe as near the poverty level. What do you feel describes that level for pliots and F/As. What do you feel is "fair"?" Now I realize you have a horse in the race but to be fair in discussing the reasonableness of the offer I for one would like to know? My horse put out to stud back in 1994. So I've been gone for awhile. Been a long time since mutual aid days Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alireza Alivandivafa" <DEmocrat2n@xxxxxxx> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: Re: Next Few Days Critical for Northwest > Rickenbacker. You missed Howard Hughes in that one. I disagree that > union > offers at this point are to be considered unreasonable. F/A's now live > down > near the poverty line. The legacies have kept on outsourcing express > flying to > airlines that pay pilots below the poverty line, even when any simple > economic > analysis can show that they are losing money on non-turbo prop express > flying > and would be better off paying more in wages to fly it themselves. These > aren't the days of "Delta + 1 or United + 1". > > > In a message dated 2/17/2006 11:00:50 AM Central Standard Time, > damiross3@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Both are to be blamed. > Unions because of their unreasonable offers > Management because they are bean counters and view Northwest as just > another > business. They are not like the great airline CEO's of the past such as > Six, > Frye, Trippe, Rickenbecker (sp?), etc.