I did some more looking. The seating charts haven't been updated but I did find this at http://www.ata.com/customer_service/policies/Initiative10.pdf This is ATA's Initiative 10. The pertinent part begins on page 62 (page 7 of the PDF): B757-200 J12 Y173 B757-300 J12 Y220 B737-800 J12 Y148 The L-1011-500 is all Y class. Not all 757's and 737's have J class ATA has 12 initiatives (http://www.ata.com/customer_service/policies/csplan0.html): Initiative 1: Offer The Lowest Fare Available Initiative 2: Notify The Customer Of Known Delays, Cancellations, And Diversions Initiative 3: On-Time Baggage Delivery Initiative 4: Support An Increase In The Baggage Liability Limit Initiative 5: Allow Reservations To Be Held Or Cancelled Initiative 6: Provide Prompt Ticket Refunds Initiative 7: Properly Accommodate Disabled And Special Needs Passengers Initiative 8: Meet Customers' Essential Needs During Long On-Aircraft Delays Initiative 9: Handle "Bumped" Passengers With Fairness And Consistency Initiative 10: Disclose Travel Itinerary, Cancellation Policies, Frequent Flyer Miles, And Aircraft Configuration Initiative 11: Ensure Good Customer Service From Code-Share Partners Initiative 12: Be More Responsive To Customer Complaints David R home.comcast.net/~damiross/books.html www.sequoians.com -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David Mueller Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 18:36 To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: ATA (was: SFGate: ATA Airlines to Expand Service) David MR wrote: > Looking at the ATA website, I think they have shelved this plan. The > seating diagrams there do not show any business class seating. It > does show that they have only one (1) lavatory on their 737-300 and > -500 aircarft. Only 1 for 139 and 122 pax respectively. Not sure what the status is, but it does appear to be going on. The press release for the Hawaii flights states that "Business seating is available." http://www.ata.com/about_ata/news/20060123b.pdf -- David Mueller / SAN dsm717@xxxxxxxxx www.quanterium.com www.spotterswiki.com