Re: jet Blue incident

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How about the consideration of Crash - Fire - Rescue equipment.  LAX has far 
more equipment available than LGB.  ETC..
Al

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alireza Alivandivafa" <DEmocrat2n@xxxxxxx>
To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: jet Blue incident


> First, the pilots and jetBlue maintainance made the decision to land the
> aircraft.  Plain and simple.  I really doubt they gave a damn about any 
> sort of
> law suit.  Second, the gear would not retract, that is how they noticed 
> the
> problem in the first place, so flying to JFK would not only be unsafe, but 
> also
> impossible at the rate of fuel burn expected, especially considering they
> already have to weight restrict out of BUR.
>
> As far as aviation firms go, are they only sharks if they defend the 
> airlines
> or just victims?  What if maintainance negligence is found to be the 
> problem?
> Safety is most definately part of the contract of carriage, so if people 
> are
> put in danger, it is a breach of contract as well as a potential tort. 
> What
> many people (notably you) don't understand is that in many cases, in order 
> to
> preserve your rights, you have to file suit early to satisfy the 
> timeliness
> requirements.  That also extends to manufacturers, where they may need to 
> be
> joined early in order to do discovery as to whether or not it was a defect 
> or it
> was negligent maintainance.  Non-lawyers don't understand how the law 
> works,
> but far too often make assumptions based on propaganda they have rammed 
> down
> their throats by insurance companies.  Here is something you probably 
> don't
> know.  Malpractice suits actually drove premiums down and health care 
> quality up
> for years simply because doctors took that much extra care in taking care 
> of
> patients.  When insurance companies decided to look for a way to justify 
> massive
> premium hikes, they blamed law suits.  Problem is, malpractice suits had
> declined, along with the amount awarded, in that time.  As far as 70% of 
> the cost
> of a Cessna being related to the cost of litigation, perhaps that is 
> because
> Cessna had to actually put some safety into the aircraft.  I am sure that 
> of
> the $300-$400 thousand dollars one pays for a Cirrus SR-22, lots of that 
> has to
> do with the safety parachute and roll cage.  So, lawyers are doing a bad 
> thing?
>
> The reason the aircraft went to LAX is multi-fold.  First, if it went off 
> the
> end of the runway, it would cause far less damage to any surrounding area 
> as
> the end of 25L is a beach.  Second, LAX would not have traffic severly
> affected, because it still had 3 runways to work with while they had to 
> close 25L,
> while LGB's only long runway would have been closed and flights, 
> especially
> jetBlue's flights, would be severly effected by having only 6000 feet of 
> runway.
> Beyond this, there is that much more emergency equipment at LAX than at 
> LGB
> because it is one of the busiest airports in the world, as opposed to one 
> with
> very limited service.  Finally, LAX has a major A320 operator hubbed at 
> the
> airport with big MX hangars on site.  The aircraft can just be towed over 
> to
> United and checked out there for damage and have parts replaced rather 
> quickly.
>
> Your attack on lawyers is completely uncalled for and an insult to the
> thousands who work everyday to protect and preserve the rights you seem 
> not to care
> about
>
> In a message dated 9/22/2005 3:39:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> damiross3@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Did you interview the pilots to determine that they didn't continue with 
> the
> flight so they could "have a controlled situation in which to land..."?
>
> JFK is JetBlue's main base where they do maintenance.  Unless the gear 
> would
> not retract - which the news casts I've seen haven't mentioned - the
> aircraft could have made it to JFK.
>
> What do you call a lawyer in a firm that specializes in aviation that sues
> an airline before the facts of the incident/accident are in?  What do you
> call a lawyer in a firm that specializes in aviation that sues an aircraft
> manufacturer because its plane was not maintained properly (in other 
> words,
> there was no defect in the airplane cause by the manufacturer.
>
> Did you know that a large part of the cost of purchasing is due to
> suit-happy lawyers?  At one time, 70 (seventy!) percent of the cost of a
> Cessna light aircraft was due to possible liability caused by lawyers.
>
> From my view here on my high horse, I still say one of the reasons that 
> the
> aircraft went to LAX was due to lawyers.
>
> Alireza, based on your previous e-mails and this one I should have known
> that you were pursuing a career in an industry that is rated very high on
> the list of professions that most people hate. 

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