Yes, But secret service has changed the rules after Sep. 11 Now they close the entire airspace. The problem with that is more than couple of times they announce the airspace closing with a time frame and with president running late they went over the time. You would think that they would extend that NOTAM to the necessary parties, but that doesn't happen.. -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allan9 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:16 PM To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Lufthansa Cancels 75 Frankfurt Flights Due To Bush Visit Excerpt from FAA Facility Management Handbook EXAMPLE- ALL TRAFFIC CAN EXPECT DELAYS FROM (date/time) TO (date/time) AND FROM (date/time) TO (date/time). (c) The time will normally be 15 minutes before to 15 minutes after the arrival and the departure time.