First problem -- actually this sounds like a great idea to match the photo at the flight school with the one on record with INS. Second problem -- again, matching the data is key to knowing who is who. Third problem -- well some may say it is time to charge for American intellectual property. It's an "entry fee." If a student cant pay it, there's training available around the world. I would however state that flight instructors who have been counting on foreign students as a stable source of revenue probably need to revisit their business models. Sure, you could see other countries attracting potential students who would have otherwise trained in the US. But I don't think the average voter is going to have a problem with that. Bahadir Acuner <bahadiracuner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: My first problem: ------------------ Now, flight instructors and flying schools are turning to a place where we perform the duties of immigration officials. How so? Well, now we have to take pictures of the candidates and upload them on TSA website. The people who are resident aliens, like myself, or people who are here on visa have their photographs taken in multiple places such as US Embassy in their respective country, during the "Green Card" process and while entering USA. So, TSA cannot go and get that picture from the government agency, but they want US flight instructors to take pictures and upload them on their website. They have some strict guidelines about how to take the picture, etc. as well. My second problem: ------------------ Finger printing process. TSA also wants these people finger printed. Once again, the people that TSA looks at have already been finger printed in US Embassy, during Green Card process, while entering USA.. Also, some CFI friends reported that local law enforcement REFUSES to get the candidates fingerprinter because TSA didn't like the way it was done by the local police. My third problem: ----------------- This is from the TSA site.. "The flight training candidate must complete a training request and pay the processing fee for each course or instance of training he/she wishes to attend, even if the training is with the same flight training provider." The English version of this is "If a flight training candidate gets his private pilot and wants to go for instrument training then he/she will have to go through this paper work ALL OVER AGAIN". Let's see for a candidate that wants to go for a "career training" that's 7 different processes. 1. Private pilot 2. Instrument rating 3. Commercial pilot 4. Multi engine rating 5. CFI 6. CFII 7. MEI 7 * $130 = $910 just for the paperwork. Not to mention the man hour that this process will take.. My fourth problem: ------------------ TSA assumes that all the flight schools have access to internet, equipment good enough to take care of digital photography, keep these things in records for 5 years, etc. MY BIGGEST PROBLEM: =================== TSA is fine and dandy with whoever shows me a US passport! Well, if the terrorist is from outside of the country wanting to do us a harm, TSA ASSUMES THAT THEY CANNOT FAKE A US PASSPORT. If the terrorist is someone like Tim McVeigh, or like the teenagers who slammed a C172 into an office building in SoFla, then what do we do?????? I am having enough headaches from this stupid rule and the way that people THINK that TSA is protecting us.. Baha Acuner Proud permanent resident CFI,II,MEI who is trying to craziest thing, providing a flight training.. (Oh, proud member of AOPA as well) SkyOne--The Airline News Channel To Post message: Skyone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To Subscribe: Skyone-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe: Skyone-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx List owner: Skyone-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Skyone URL: http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/Skyone Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Skyone/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Skyone-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Discover all that?s new in My Yahoo!