Clay, It's costing AA more to operate the non-stop because of hub and spoke structure. BAHA Fan of hub and spoke, focus city, city of interest, whatever.. -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Clay Wardlow Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:48 PM To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Everybody missed on this Something that's come to me... which should cost more to operate with the same planes: =20 1. SEA-DFW-SEA =20 -OR- =20 2. SEA-STL-DFW-ORD-SEA =20 My guess would be #2 would cost more... YET I'm paying $500 LESS to do #2 than I would pay to do #1. =20 Something is messed up. No wonder no one is making money. =20 Clay - SEA =20 -----Original Message----- From: damiross3@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:damiross3@xxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:41 PM To: The Airline List; Clay Wardlow; bahadiracuner@xxxxxxxxx] Subject: Re: Everybody missed on this =20 I agree with you, Clay. =20 Obviously Baha doesn't have to worry about spending money because he obviously has plenty of it. Us common peons do need to worry about money. =20 Lower fares - at a level that covers costs plus a small profit - is what is needed. =20 David R =20 -------------- Original message --------------=20 =09 > Fan of fare increases, are you crazy man?=20 >=20 > The airlines need to go through a much needed diet. There is so much fat=20 > and waste at the biggies especially. This has been a long time coming.=3D20=20 >=20 > There's lots of change that needs to happen, not just in the aviation=20 > industry, but world-wide. Oil is getting more expensive. Demand is going=20 > up, supply is going down. Now we know there are other sources of energy=20 > for cars (etc), and they are becoming more popular. Is there such a=20 > thing for airplanes? What happens to the industry if fuel prices never=20 > stop going up? Fares can only go up so much before the average person=20 > can't fly. That's not going to save the airlines.=20 >=20 > Clay - SEA=20 > Fan of the maglev train they talked about on the Discovery Channel the=20 > other day.=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message-----=20 > From: Bahadir Acuner [mailto:bahadiracuner@xxxxxxxxx]=3D20=20 > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:08 AM=20 > Subject: Everybody missed on this=20 >=20 > WN has increased some of the fares by 50% few days ago. In the day and=20 > age=20 > of $55/barrel oil prices I am hoping that this will take care of yield=20 > problems in the industry. There will be less of $99 one way special=20 > fares.=20 >=20 > BAHA=20 > Fan of fare increases so that airlines can stay afloat.=20