As I sit here in the hole known as DFW gazing across the west field, it's hard not to be impressed by Airbus and Boeing (and the Embraer and Bombardier in front of me.) Both Airbus and Boeing have a product that has a wingspan of less than 100 ft, and can take off from a fairly small field, travel 2,500 miles and land. With 100+ passengers... and cargo. To my grandfathers generation, it's impressive. Never mind the future derivatives of the A330 and 777. Within a few years, 'we' will have a commercial plane that can take off from any airport in the world, fly to any other airport in the world and land. Airbus nearly achieved that with an A330 delivery last year that I think did about 11,000 miles in one hop. (Though I think both Boeing and Airbus, and Bombardier AND Embraer all receive forms of government assistance in some form or another. But all is fair in love and war.) Matthew On 23-Sep-04, at 11:11 AM, Clay Wardlow wrote: > You know BAHA, I used to think I was the only one that liked BOTH > Boeing > AND Airbus. > > Nice to know there are others out there. > > I just hate all this Boeing VS Airbus non-sense! > > Clay - SEA > Fan of Boeing and Airbus > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bahadir Acuner [mailto:bahadiracuner@xxxxxxxxx]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:21 PM > Subject: Re: Stupidity of airline "security" and two incidences > > I have better for you " Clinton News Network" :) Heard it over Fox > News, > that I watch for entertainment purposes only.. > At any rate, I will stop at that as this thing is getting off topic; > unless > we want to discuss anything that is related to airlines.. > > Here's the topic.. Where did the 737s for Iraq Airways come from? I > think > they were all destroyed during the war. > > BAHA > Fan of Boeing and Airbus > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Ian > Caldwell > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 9:44 PM > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Stupidity of airline "security" and two incidences > > You are correct that he never supported Hamas "directly", he supports > the > Islamic Association of Palestine which is a Hamas front group. Perhaps > you > can explain why he gave 1000's of dollars to the son of blind cleric > Omar > Abdel Rachman who was convicted of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. > Maybe to buy a seeing eye dog? > > I'll skip reading the story from the Chicken Noodle Network. Thanks > away. > > At 09:24 PM 22/09/2004 -0700, Bahadir Acuner wrote: >> There is no proof that he personally and directly supported Hamas. >> You have to read the CNN's story about this. >> >> http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/22/ >> stevens.reaction.profile > /