Weren't the CP 737s in an all Business Class configuration when they had that Attache service? Mark -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Montano Sent: August 29, 2004 3:26 PM To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: any airline fly from the West coast to Russia? --Apple-Mail-15--452935791 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 1950 miles within a 737-200's range? With teeth gritted the entire way.. ;-) I thought a 737-200 maxed out at about 1900nms, though I believe=20 Canadian Airlines had a few 'modded' 732's that could do the=20 Toronto/Vancovuer 2200nm run... BARELY. I heard stories that with=20 unfriendly winds they would be on the ground in Winnipeg grabbing some=20= gas. Not knowing the number of alternate airfields I'm not sure I'd want to=20= take a plane at the limits of it's range out across that part of the=20 world. Matthew On 28-Aug-04, at 6:22 PM, David MR wrote: > The distances aren't as far as you think. GDX (Magadan)=A0 to ANC > is=20= > about 1950 miles, well within the 737-200's range, although near > the=20= > upper limit for the MD80. > =A0 > =A0GDX was a stop on the way to VVO (Valdivastok). > =A0 > (My e-mails aren't going through to the list so please forward for > me=20= > to the list thanks). > =A0 > David R > =A0 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matthew Montano > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 14:07 > Subject: Re: [AIRLINE] any airline fly from the West coast to Russia? > > Prior to the 737NGs, I can't imagine Alaskan had any aircraft to > get=20= > from ANC to anywhere civilized in Russia. > > It is one heck of a long way and very deceiving on a Mercator=20 > projection map. > > I know Alaskan serves a couple of posts on the Aleutian islands, but > I=20= > do believe they are seasonal. > > Matthew > (Disconnected as I write this) > > On 28-Aug-04, at 12:19 AM, Alireza Alivandivafa wrote: > > > They used to fly SEA-ANC-Russian Far East. Though the route > changed,=20= > they > always flew to Vladivastok and Magadan, along with a few other > places=20= > over time. > They had MD-80s doing it for a while, which is when they found out = they > don't do well in the conditions and limited their cold flying and=20 > shoot them to Mexico. I believe they flew 732 flights toward the end. > > In a message dated 8/27/2004 12:58:44 PM Central Daylight Time, > DZTOPS@xxxxxxx writes: > Alaska airlines flew (or flys?) from Alaska to Siberia I think--just > a=20= > short > westbound trip--not what you were probably thinking of. --Apple-Mail-15--452935791 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 1950 miles within a 737-200's range? With teeth gritted the entire way.. ;-) I thought a 737-200 maxed out at about 1900nms, though I believe Canadian Airlines had a few 'modded' 732's that could do the Toronto/Vancovuer 2200nm run... BARELY. I heard stories that with unfriendly winds they would be on the ground in Winnipeg grabbing some gas. Not knowing the number of alternate airfields I'm not sure I'd want to take a plane at the limits of it's range out across that part of the world.=20 Matthew <bold> </bold>=20 On 28-Aug-04, at 6:22 PM, David MR wrote: <excerpt><smaller>The distances aren't as far as you think. GDX (Magadan)=A0 to ANC is about 1950 miles, well within the 737-200's range, although near the upper limit for the MD80.</smaller> =A0 <smaller>=A0GDX was a stop on the way to VVO (Valdivastok).</smaller> =A0 <smaller>(My e-mails aren't going through to the list so please forward for me to the list thanks).</smaller> =A0 <smaller>David R</smaller> =A0 ----- Original Message ----- = <bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger>From:</x-tad-bigger></= fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger> = </x-tad-bigger><color><param>0000,0000,EEEE</param><x-tad-bigger>Matthew Montano</x-tad-bigger></color><x-tad-bigger> = </x-tad-bigger></fontfamily> = <bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger>To:</x-tad-bigger></fo= ntfamily></bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger> = </x-tad-bigger><color><param>0000,0000,EEEE</param><x-tad-bigger>AIRLINE@L= ISTSERV.CUNY.EDU</x-tad-bigger></color><x-tad-bigger> = </x-tad-bigger></fontfamily> = <bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger>Sent:</x-tad-bigger></= fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger> Saturday, August 28, 2004 14:07</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily> = <bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger>Subject:</x-tad-bigger= ></fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><x-tad-bigger> Re: [AIRLINE] any airline fly from the West coast to = Russia?</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily> Prior to the 737NGs, I can't imagine Alaskan had any aircraft to get from ANC to anywhere civilized in Russia. It is one heck of a long way and very deceiving on a Mercator projection map. I know Alaskan serves a couple of posts on the Aleutian islands, but I do believe they are seasonal. Matthew (Disconnected as I write this) On 28-Aug-04, at 12:19 AM, Alireza Alivandivafa wrote: They used to fly SEA-ANC-Russian Far East. Though the route changed, they always flew to Vladivastok and Magadan, along with a few other places over time. They had MD-80s doing it for a while, which is when they found out they don't do well in the conditions and limited their cold flying and shoot them to Mexico. I believe they flew 732 flights toward the end. In a message dated 8/27/2004 12:58:44 PM Central Daylight Time, DZTOPS@xxxxxxx writes: Alaska airlines flew (or flys?) from Alaska to Siberia I think--just a short westbound trip--not what you were probably thinking of. </excerpt>= --Apple-Mail-15--452935791--