David No one uses common sense in that area. The Mayor wants expansion. The = people are NIMBY Building it in Gary would be urban renewal and beside Gary is Indiana. = Illinois says NO NO Al ----- Original Message -----=20 From: damiross2@xxxxxxxxxxx=20 To: The Airline List ; Allan9=20 Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [AIRLINE] SFGate: Airline executives warned to ease = flight delays at O'Hare in Chicago (from David "Moderated so it will never get to the list" R. please = forward to the list). With many cities, and I imagne Chicago is no different, having more = businesses moving to the suburbs, why does it matter how far the airport = is from the downtown area? What is the development like in the southern suburbs of Chicago? The = Gary area? It would seem like if these areas are developing, then a = south-of-Chicago airport would make sense. David R -------------- Original message --------------=20 > http://www.lib.niu.edu/ipo/ii931123.html=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Clay Wardlow"=20 > To: "Allan9" ;=20 > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 1:09 PM=20 > Subject: RE: SFGate: Airline executives warned to ease flight = delays at=20 > O'Hare in Chicago=20 >=20 >=20 > Wow! That's really cool. How much of a difference (in time) = between=20 > downtown-ORD and downtown-Peotone?=20 >=20 > Have any plans/designs been drafted/submitted?=20 >=20 > I love this stuff!=20 >=20 > Clay - SEA=20 >=20 > -----Original Message-----=20 > From: Allan9 [mailto:exatc@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:04 AM=20 > To: Clay Wardlow; AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 >! Subject: Re: SFGate: Airline executives warned to ease flight = delays at=20 > O'Hare in Chicago=20 >=20 > The site the legislators (state) are touting is/was Peotone. I = really=20 > don't=20 > think the airlines would care how far you had to travel. ORD is = mainly=20 > connecting flights. There big objection is they would not want to = have=20 > to=20 > build new "support" facilities. They would not want to support two = > airports. ORD would have to be closed the same as DEN was or it = will=20 > never=20 > fly. AIrlines will not support two/three airports. The City of = Chicago=20 > will not give up ORD totally.=20 > You'd end up with a DFW/DAL situation and maybe another Wright=20 > Ammendment.=20 > Al=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Clay Wardlow"=20 > To: "Allan9" ;=20 > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:35 PM > Subject: RE: SFGate: = Airline executives warned to ease flight delays at=20 > O'Hare in Chicago=20 >=20 >=20 > Is there a site in Chicago-land that would work for a new airport? = I=20 > assume it would be far away from downtown Chicago. Are the people = of=20 > Chicago willing to drive (I'm guessing) 60 miles away from = downtown to=20 > get to the airport? Is that realistic?=20 >=20 > I'd LOVE to see a large, new airport for Chicago and for the US.=20 > Hopefully we've learned a few things from Denver.=20 >=20 > Clay - SEA=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message-----=20 > From: Allan9 [mailto:exatc@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:29 AM=20 > To: The Airline List; Clay Wardlow=20 > Subject: Re: SFGate: Airline executives warned to ease flight = delays at=20 > O'Hare in Chicago=20 >=20 > In my opinion and the time I spent there a new airport will/would = be=20 > built=20 > before ORD expands. The Mayor doesn't want a new one built becaus! = e he'd=20 > lose the power/jobs/income tax. The suburbs don't want the noise=20 > expansion=20 > would bring. Go back and read the newspapers from the late 80's = and=20 > early=20 > 90s and just change the dates.=20 > Al.=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Clay Wardlow"=20 > To:=20 > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:08 PM=20 > Subject: Re: SFGate: Airline executives warned to ease flight = delays at=20 > O'Hare in Chicago=20 >=20 >=20 > With all this ORD stuff going on, what are the prospects that the = ORD=20 > expansion plan (http://modernization.ohare.com/) will actually = happen?=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Clay - SEA