"Collaborative Decision Making" that sounds like the more in the boat rowing the less on the shore to throw rocks. The timeframe is after I retired. That was the reason for the question. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "RWM" <RWM@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Re: Here we go again.....summer is here early! and 'EOW' day prior ] > Al, > > Stated rationale (circa 2000/2001 when it was being promoted, along with > "Collaborative Decision Making" -- inviting airline SOCs into the FAA > tent) was relieving industry of the scheduling uncertainties of ground > stops, inflight holding and related delays. In other words, the > initiative was delay-driven. > > Safety is a given, though it presumably provides some margins there, too. > > - Bob > > Allan9 wrote: > > >Dumb question > >Wasn't the plan designed to improve safety first; delays second. It seems > >that if you reroute traffic around the weather you add time to the flight. > >Result delays? > >Al > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "RWM" <RWM@xxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 3:32 PM > >Subject: [ Re: Here we go again.....summer is here early! and 'EOW' day > >prior ] > > > > > > > > > >>Anyone from an airline SOC know how FAA's Severe Weather Operations Plan > >> > >> > >is coping with these events? Does FAA believe the outcome would have been > >worse without the plan in effect? > > > > > >>- Bob Mann > >>-- > >>R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis > >>Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 > >>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxx >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ > >> > >>This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain > >>privileged or confidential information. If you have received it > >>in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete > >>the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. > >> > >> > >> > >>"Due to WEATHER, TSTMS and ENROUTE TSTMS, there is a Traffic Management > >> > >> > >Program in effect for traffic arriving Newark International Airport, Newark, > >NJ (EWR). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of > >1 hour and 18 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure > >airport and check "Delays by Destination". > > > > > >>Delays by Destination: > >>Due to WEATHER, LOCIGS, departure traffic destined to The William B > >> > >> > >Hartsfield International Airport, Atlanta, GA (ATL) is currently > >experiencing delays averaging 30 minutes. > > > > > >>Due to RUNWAY, CONSTRUCTION, departure traffic destined to General Edward > >> > >> > >Lawrence Logan International Airport, Boston, MA (BOS) is currently > >experiencing delays averaging 49 minutes. > > > > > >>Due to WEATHER, TSTMS, departure traffic destined to La Guardia Airport, > >> > >> > >New York, NY (LGA) is currently experiencing delays averaging 1 hour and 24 > >minutes. > > > > > >>Due to WEATHER, TSTMS, departure traffic destined to Chicago OHare > >> > >> > >International Airport, Chicago, IL (ORD) is currently experiencing delays > >averaging 1 hour. > > > > > >>Due to WX,TSTMS ENRTE, departure traffic destined to Philadelphia > >> > >> > >International Airport, Philadelphia, PA (PHL) is currently experiencing > >delays averaging 53 minutes. > > > > > >>Due to ENROUTE TSTMS, departure traffic destined to CDW airport will not > >> > >> > >be allowed to depart until at or after 20:30 UTC. > > > > > >>Due to ENROUTE TSTMS, departure traffic destined to John F Kennedy > >> > >> > >International Airport, New York, NY (JFK) will not be allowed to depart > >until at or after 4:30 pm EDT. > > > > > >>Due to ENROUTE TSTMS, departure traffic destined to La Guardia Airport, > >> > >> > >New York, NY (LGA) will not be allowed to depart until at or after 4:30 pm > >EDT. > > > > > >>Due to ENROUTE TSTMS, departure traffic destined to MMU airport will not > >> > >> > >be allowed to depart until at or after 20:30 UTC. > > > > > >>Due to ENROUTE TSTMS, departure traffic destined to Teterboro Airport, > >> > >> > >Teterboro, NJ (TEB) will not be allowed to depart until at or after 4:30 pm > >EDT. > > > > > >>Delays by Destination: > >> > >>Due to WEATHER, TSTMS, departure traffic destined to The William B > >> > >> > >Hartsfield International Airport, Atlanta, GA (ATL) is currently > >experiencing delays averaging 26 minutes. > > > > > >>Due to WEATHER, ENROUTE TSTMS, departure traffic destined to Dallas/Ft > >> > >> > >Worth International Airport, Dallas-Ft Worth, TX (DFW) is currently > >experiencing delays averaging 49 minutes. > > > > > >>Due to WEATHER, WIND, departure traffic destined to Chicago Midway > >> > >> > >Airport, Chicago, IL (MDW) is currently experiencing delays averaging 38 > >minutes. > > > > > >>Due to WEATHER, WIND, departure traffic destined to Chicago OHare > >> > >> > >International Airport, Chicago, IL (ORD) is currently experiencing delays > >averaging 1 hour and 39 minutes. > > > > > >>Roger > >>EWROPS" > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis > Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 > mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxx >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ > > This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain > privileged or confidential information. If you have received it > in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete > the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. >