----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Montano" <mmontano@xxxxxxxxx> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 16:11 Subject: Re: [AIRLINE] Airbus 380: They're Doing it Again > Airbus quotes 8500nm on the 340-500 in typical layout and load, with > 7800nm on the 380 with 'max-pax' (which I'd assume means their 550 > 3-class layout with average luggage load.) > > So yes, while the A345/747-400s and the 380 put much of South-Asia/US > point-to-points just within the range, the 380 has significantly more > margin to increase the range by reducing the pax load. > > (Reducing the # of passengers on a 345 would need to be done at a > premium to make the route profitable, I guess that is why Singapore is > doing what they are doing. And I'm guessing they will look to offer the > same SIN-LAX product on the 380 when it is available.) > > Matthew Except SQ doesn't plan on introducing the Executive Economy on other aircraft. There's an article on the SQ service in the latest issue of Airliner World that mentions this. David R http://home.attbi.com/~damiross http://home.attbi.com/~damiross/books.html > > > > > The 340 > On Dec 6, 2003, at 8:25 PM, David MR wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alireza Alivandivafa" <DEmocrat2n@xxxxxxx> > > To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 19:03 > > Subject: Re: [AIRLINE] Airbus 380: They're Doing it Again > > > > > >> In a message dated 12/4/2003 9:02:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, > >> mmontano@xxxxxxxxx writes: > >> > >> << The other thing is that the A380 has an awesome range. While many > >> parts > >> of East-Asia are just on the fringe of of non-stop range from the US > >> with existing 747-400s and now A340-500/600s, the A380 puts it all > >> within non-stop range. There will be no more technical stops in > >> Anchorage/Vancouver/Hawaii and JFK/HKG will become a year-around > >> normal > >> flight. >> > >> > >> Um, I believe the A345 has longer range than the A380 will have, and > > SIN-LAX > >> nonstops with the 380 will be a stretch > > > > A340-500: 8,650 nm > > A380: 7,800 nm > > A380HGW (High Gross Weight): 8,150 nm > > > > So, even though Alireza is wrong on his choice of drink (i.e. thinks > > AmWest > > does wrong serving Pepsi), he is right here. > > > > Question: The A340-500 range is with 313 pax; does anybody know what > > it is > > with SQ's configuration (181 pax)?