In a message dated 12/4/2003 3:33:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, gjmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: << Couldn't agree more. The man is a complete wanker. Still pretending he's the enfant terrible of the business community and he's pushing 60. No wonder they didn't give him the National Lottery contract. Trouble is his Virgin Blue protege is a carbon copy. >> Envious?