In a message dated 12/1/2003 9:07:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, B787300@xxxxxxx writes: << But as I understand it, and I could be wrong, you can't even get them on to the LAX runways safely to begin with, let alone from a runway to the gate, unless someone makes darn sure that there are no B747-400's and maybe other group 5 aircraft on immediately adjacent runways and/or taxiways. What kind of operation is that? A damn unsafe one. >> If they were to try it without going with the major master plan (as Hahn, generally not a bad guy but an asshole on airport issues, seems to want to move away from) they would probably have to bring in even more controlers to do work extra ground. Now, I have not taken a trip up to the tower cab yet (which I can do, because of my uncle in the FAA) but I am betting it is full already. Would be interesting to see them use the cab in the old tower (which is an office building now, after the asbestos abatement) just to maneuver superjumbos. Might be something like SAN where the airport has to close for 744 ops. Might have to partially close one of the runway complexes to do it