It was Amber Bock tonight but regardless, it will take 2,269 years for A380 operators to pay for all the construction the aircraft will require through the heavier landing fee charges they will pay. Airports are not going to wait that long so they'll pass the increased construction costs, borrowing costs and bond interest to all the other carriers. Southwest certainly has more than 3 or 4 flights a day at LAX and JetBlue surely has more than 3 or 4 flights a day at JFK. What have you been drinking, Turkish vodka? Jose Prize Fan of the Ha in Baha In a message dated 11/30/2003 8:32:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, bahadiracuner@xxxxxxxxx writes: > Subj: Re: AIRLINE Digest - 28 Nov 2003 to 29 Nov 2003 (#2003-196) > Date: 11/30/2003 8:32:53 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:bahadiracuner@xxxxxxxxx";>bahadiracuner@xxxxxxxxx</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> > Sent from the Internet > > It must be the Heineken. :) Let us not forget that the airlines pay landing > fees by the weight of the aircraft. Also, airlines you mentioned carry > 100-150 pax at a plane load and they restrict their services to 3-4 flights > a day. > Even with those numbers they will be paying less to the airport authority > compared to the one giant A380 carrying 700 pax. :) > > BAHA > Fan of flying villages :P > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of > B787300@xxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:22 PM > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: AIRLINE Digest - 28 Nov 2003 to 29 Nov 2003 (#2003-196) > > > But the improvements needed will run in the hundreds of millions of dollars > for most airports and even after spending huge sums there will be > restrictions > on other large aircraft taxiing or using runways adjacent to the big beast. > > Why should other airlines, particularly the narrowbody operators like > Southwest, AirTran, JetBlue and Spirit, have to pay increased airport fees > for all > these required modifications and restrictions to benefit a few other > carriers > with minimum operations daily? All of the airlines will pass their > increased > fees on to the flying public so we'll all end up paying for a stupid > decision to > build an aircraft too large to operate safely at most airports. > > Jose Prize > Fan of Virgin but they and other A380 buyers should pay 50% of the airport > construction costs > > In a message dated 11/30/2003 7:30:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, > katana.flyer@xxxxxxxxxx writes: > > >Subj: Re: AIRLINE Digest - 28 Nov 2003 to 29 Nov 2003 (#2003-196) > > Date: 11/30/2003 7:30:43 PM Eastern Standard Time > > From: <A > HREF="mailto:katana.flyer@xxxxxxxxxx";>katana.flyer@xxxxxxxxxx > > Reply-to: <A > HREF="mailto:katana.flyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>katana.flyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To: <A > HREF="mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent from the Internet > > > >Well airports need traffic to stay in business. I'm suprised LAX isn't > >making plans becasue quite a few carriers using the airport have the A380 > on order > >and it's surely in the airports interests to have as many passengers per > >plane as possible coming thorough (more revenue per movement). > > > >Regards, > > > >David > > > >On Sunday 30 November 2003 05:33, Herman R. Silbiger wrote: > >>They just should ask Branson to pay for the improvements he wants. In > >>any case I don't understand why airport authorities are forced to > >>accommodate any plane than wants to come in. It might actually be a good > >>idea if no US airport could take the A380, since no US airline has any > >>on order. > >> > >>Herman >