In a message dated 7/29/2003 6:50:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dplaflamme@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: << I was thinking of the EMB 190s when I made the comment about short thin routes. :-) ACA's experiment will be the death of them or have proven viable by the time the EMB 190s are on-line for B6. >> That is a perfect short thin plane, ask FL about the 717. You are right about ACA. In fact, this might scare B6 off from IAD expansion and send them to FLL or somewhere else. Who else is for B6 slapping AA in the face at STL?