In a message dated 6/22/2003 10:00:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mmontano@xxxxxxxxx writes: << Physical characteristics have only a partial influence on operating costs. >> I realize all this, but you have to remember who is making money. Big, mainline planes make money with carriers that know how to keep customers and employees happy at the same time. Piss off either, or in most cases both, you will lose like these idiots