Let's see: 1) About 18 months ago, four unarmed civilian airliners were hijacked, two skyscrapers destroyed, and a U. S. government building damaged. 3000+ innocent civilians were killed by terrorists. 2) In 1998, two U. S. Embassies (Kenya and Tanzania) were bombed by terrorists. 270+ innocent civilians killed. 3) In December 1988, a U. S. airliner, Pan Am's Clipper 103, was destroyed in mid-air with 240+ inncoent civilians murdered. 4) In 1986, a U. S. airliner TWA Boeing 727, suffered severe damage due to a bomb planted by Middle Eastern terrorists. 4) In 1985, the Achille Lauro cruise liner is hijacked and an innocent passenger (an American)is executed. 5) Also in 1985, TWA's 847 was hijacked and an innocent passenger (an American) was executed. 6) In 1969, three western airliners were hijacked and blown up or severly damaged in the Syrian desert. One of these was an American airliner. Oh, the "Air Force hot shot flying a plane into a ski lift with 20 Europeans on it, no one will apologize" story isn't completely true. A Marine Corps EA-6B Prowler hit the cable in the Italian Alps and, tragically, the skiers were killed. All four crew members on the EA-6B were court-martialed, disciplined, dismissed from the service, and the pilot served a prison term. Restitution was made to the families of those killed in this accident. No folks, the U. S. owes nobody an apology when it seeks justice and is one of a few countries that takes great pains to follow the Laws Of Armed Conlict to the letter. And, with the exception of Great Britain, please tell me what other nation, in the middle of a war, very carefully attacks legitimate military targets and then concurrently feeds the population of that country? The United States of America is not perfect and this country does make mistakes. But, there are still millions of folks who want to get a visa, come to America, and try to attain the American dream. They must see something good that America has to offer for people that their home nation doesn't offer to them. Best Wishes to the list, JCK ---- >From: Jim Fuoco <jfuoco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: The Airline List <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jim >Fuoco <jfuoco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: Why Some Hate the U.S. >Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:31:51 -0500 > >I fully understand these sentiments. > >It seems like we are the first to criticize other countries and the first >to put our nose into everyone else's business. Yet when we make mistakes, >like a missile gone astray, or an Air Force hot shot flying a plane into a >ski lift with 20 Europeans on it, no one will apologize. > >Our arrogance and self-serving policies are unfortunately creating more >and more anti-American sentiments around the world. Do we really want the >rest of the world to hate us? > > > >On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Gerard M Foley wrote: > > > A friend this morning remarked that a niece had died aboard Egyptair >990. > > This reminded me of what I have noted before on the list. The Egyptair > > representative on the joint investigation of this crash filed a >dissenting > > opinion. He specified several cases of problems with B767 horizontal > > stabilizers. I searched the net for any response to this dissent, and >what > > I found was a simple reassertion that the NTSB had devised a coherent > > reasonable account of the events leading up to the crash. I cannot find >any > > refutation of the specific assertions in the dissenting opinion. As >far as > > I can see, the U.S. investigators just said "We know what happened, so >shut > > up. We'll agree not to issue any finding, we'll just leak it and say >that > > we don't want to upset Egypt for political reasons." > > > > Another civil airline matter relevant to the attitude towards the U.S. > > relates to the USS Vincennes shooting down an Iranian Airbus. As far >as I > > know the U.S. has never paid compensation to the survivors of the >victims on > > the grounds that the money might wind up with the Iranian government. > > > > I suspect there are other examples of arrogance relating to air traffic >that > > I am unaware of. > > > > People on the Eclipse list have been upset by the appendage I have felt > > moved to put on my e-mail signature. In fact I am a US Citizen, have >never > > lived in Germany, but I feel as powerless as Good Germans did in the >1930's. > > My personal opposition to the Nazi Party predated January 30,1933. >Perhaps > > I should put quotation marks around the appendage to my signature. If >no > > one ever said it, I am sure there were millions who said nearly the same > > thing. > > > > I'm not trying to be provocative, I just want people to think. > > > > Gerry > > "I am a good German. I did not vote for the Nazis. I don't care > > who they send to the camps or what they do there as long as > > they don't send me." > > > > http://foley.ultinet.net/~gerry/africar/africa.html > > http://home.columbus.rr.com/gfoley > > http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/pollock/263/egypt/egypt.html > > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail