From: "Bahadir Acuner" <bahadiracuner@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 5:27 PM > http://flyos.free.fr/fna/imageforum/images/TAP.asx > That looks exactly the way the NW727 I was in behaved at Reno-Lake Tahoe a few years ago. I'm sure our wingtips were within 3 feet of the runway before the men up front decided to try (successfully) a few minutes later. Gerry http://foley.ultinet.net/~gerry/africar/africa.html http://home.columbus.rr.com/gfoley http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/pollock/263/egypt/egypt.html