<< Carty wants to cut $4 billion in annual= costs, and American's management team has found about half that total. The= carrier hopes to persuade its labor unions that concessions are critical to= American's long-term survival. American is in mediated contract talks with= its pilots, but it hasn't yet started formal discussions with any of its= unions about concessions. >> Sounds like everyone is gonna get laid off everywhere and all the routes will be cut and all the acft grounded and then all the airlines wont lose money anymore. And we can all stay home too. Dennis