It's a no win situation for United and the sooner mgmt files Chapter 11, the better. Sure it's going to be hell for the employees and everyone whose livelihood depends on UAL, but their business model just doesn't work in today's economy. Chap 11 gives the airline a chance to regroup by fast tracking changes that must be made..and made quickly. Sorry to see this happen, but it's time to move on. RT Simpson Phoenix