I'm not taking about 727 in general. I miss the CO 727's, nothing like a flt dept 1 1/2hrs late and arriving 30mins late. I am talking about Miami Air's 727. If you ever been on worked on one you would have second thoughts on flying. -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of damiross2@attbi.com Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:48 PM To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Re: [Sky-1] NYTimes.com Article: A New Choice for Flying Coast to Coast Crapy 727's? The 727 is one of the best aircraft around. It looks sexy on the outside, has great flight characteristics, and, with only 48 seats, is quite comfortable. And best of all, it doesn't look like the present crop of aircraft - all boring, look the same, twinjets. Besides, it was also one of the first model aircraft I ever built long time ago :) > Tell me that they are not going to use their CRAPY 727"s. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: articles-email@ms1.lga2.nytimes.com > [mailto:articles-email@ms1.lga2.nytimes.com] On Behalf Of=20 > psa188@juno.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:16 AM > To: skyone@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Sky-1] NYTimes.com Article: A New Choice for Flying Coast to > Coast > > > This article from NYTimes.com > has been sent to you by psa188@juno.com. > > > I wonder what that "DB" really stands for? > > > > psa188@juno.com > > > A New Choice for Flying Coast to Coast > > September 24, 2002 > By JANE L. LEVERE > > > > > > > A New England air charter company plans to enter the New > York-to- Los Angeles market later this year with charter flights on=20 > specially configured airliners. > > The company, DB Air Ltd. of North Hampton, N.H., will offer one=20 > round-trip flight five days a week between Burbank Airport near Los=20 > Angeles and Kennedy International Airport, starting Dec. 1. Fares will > be the same as business-class service on scheduled transcontinental=20 > flights. > > DB Air's plans follow the introduction in June by Lufthansa of=20 > scheduled all-business-class service on a leased 48-seat 737-700=20 > aircraft, between D=FCsseldorf and Newark. A spokeswoman for = Lufthansa,=20 > Jennifer Urbaniak, said the service, which is offered every day but=20 > Tuesday, was profitable. > > Although the New York-Los Angeles market is one of the country's=20 > busiest, industry experts are divided about DB Air's prospects. While=20 > many travel agents say DB Air can successfully fill a niche, Wall=20 > Street analysts are more skeptical. The analysts point to the failure=20 > of the Regent Air Corporation and MGM Grand Air, which ran luxury=20 > flights in the 1980's and 1990's, and to the failure of Legend=20 > Airlines, which briefly offered service from Dallas Love Field in=20 > 2000. > > Samuel C. Buttrick, airline analyst for UBS Warburg, said, "High-end=20 > transcon service has been tried by MGM Grand and Regent Air, and it=20 > didn't even approach success." > > The chief operating officer, Gregory Raiff, said DB Air, which=20 > provides charter flights for rock groups and sports teams, will offer=20 > one round-trip flight daily except Tuesdays and Saturdays. The flights > will be operated by Miami Air International, which operates DB Air's=20 > flights for sports teams. > > Two specially configured 727-200's - with 48 first-class sleeper seats > with DVD players; two staterooms; a bar; a conference table; data=20 > ports and fax machine - will be used. > > Mr. Raiff said DB Air planned a fare comparable to the current=20 > business-class fare of scheduled airlines; the one-way business-class=20 > fare from Kennedy airport to Los Angeles International is about=20 > $1,800. > > DB Air will not sell tickets to the public. Rather, > travelers will have to buy them from a group of travel agencies that=20 > have agreed to act as distributors. The agencies include Valerie=20 > Wilson Travel, Protravel International, Linden Travel Bureau and Tzell > Travel Group, all in New York, and Altour International, which has=20 > offices in New York and Los Angeles. > > = http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/24/business/24CHAR.html?ex=3D1033873383&e > i=3D > 1&en=3D9e30c1cdeb258adb > > > > HOW TO ADVERTISE > --------------------------------- > For information on advertising in e-mail newsletters > or other creative advertising opportunities with The > New York Times on the Web, please contact onlinesales@nytimes.com or=20 > visit our online media kit at http://www.nytimes.com/adinfo > > For general information about NYTimes.com, write to help@nytimes.com. > > Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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