In a message dated 9/19/2002 10:18:35 PM Central Standard Time, exatc@neo.rr.com writes: > Flew N815M (Original Jetstream) about30 plus years ago out of CLE. > We call those J-balls now, for several reasons! :-) It kinda looks like a ball compared to the longer 41 and for the admiration we autopilot drivers have for the folks that fly it. Jim Hann Waterski J-41 Captain Lambert-St. Louis Airport (STL/KSTL)