In the story on this subject last night on 60 Minutes, Transportation Sec. Minetta said that this was part of the profile in place now, and he inferred it was in place before 9/11. Steve Croff then called him on this and Sec. Minetta had to admit the 9/11 hijackers bought round trip tickets with credit cards. I don't claim to know all the answers. But I think it is safe to say that human intellegence, on the ground in those questionable parts of the world needs to be restored, hopefully to a pre-Carter level. And, someone with just a little common sense needs to be running the TSA. Tom > > From: Mike Gammon <jmgammon@sympatico.ca> > Date: 2002/08/12 Mon PM 08:03:54 EDT > To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU > Subject: Re: If Baha and I lost.... > > I think that the problem is that we SHOULD be looking at profiling. Not > racial profiling, but rather, behaviour profiling. > > For example, if your only profiling basis was men paying for a one-way > ticket in cash, and with no luggage, for a transcon flight, the Sept. 11 > tragedy could have been stopped. Whether caucasian or middle-eastern, that > behaviour should have been a tip-off. After all, if we limit ourselves to > racial minorities, we could let an airline-equivalent of Timothy McVeigh > slip through the cracks. > > Mike Gammon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Givens" <jgivens@comcast.net> > To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:06 PM > Subject: Re: If Baha and I lost.... > > > > On 12 Aug 2002 at 16:53, Nick Laflamme wrote: > > > > > Suppose the TSA accepts the simple-minded premise that ethnic and > religious > > > profiling should be used to screen airline passengers. > > > > As much as it goes against everything of which this country was founded > and as > > repugnant as the thought is, one cannot deny that there are many many > people of a > > dangerous warped philosophy that share in overwhelming numbers several > obvious > > physical characteristics. This cannot be denied. Couple the obvious > commonality in > > certain traits with the degree of hatred and possible death and > destruction that can > > be caused, it is very easy to be led along this path of profiling for > security measures. > > It is quite conceivable, when looked at in the global perspective, that > the very > > quality of life we enjoy, if not our existence as a free democratic > nation, is in grave > > peril. > > > > Like it or not, agree with it or not, this cannot be denied. > > > > Look at from another perspective: My 4 year old has chicken pox. What was > my first > > thought? Smallpox. > > > > Who, even 1 year ago, would have thought that? > > _____________________________________________ > > > > mailto:jgivens@comcast.net > > > > A random MP quote: > > "Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?" >