Hi Scotty, Long time no natter. It's sounding more and more like the Swiss ATC guy screwed up. Or, more accurately, the system screwed up and the poor sod up the sharp end was left wearing it. A mate of mine who was over in Geneva for a ATC conference a couple of years back and was taken to the ATC simulator which also takes a live feed from Eurocontrol, including the sector in question and he said it is a hellishly complicated piece of airspace. Grant SYD QF Scotty wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grant McKenzie" <grantmckenzie@optushome.com.au> > To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: NYTimes.com Article: Doomed Planes Tried to Avoid Collison > > > >>When I worked in ATC, a command from the ground was supposed to have >>priority. I would imagine Bashkirian Airlines (if their chief >>pilot/regulatory overseer were doing their job properly and, with all >>due respect to Scotty's passions on the subject of all things Russian, >>I'm not convinced was a given) would have a compliance instruction >>written into their operations manuals. >> > > It is written into their manual from what I was told by a Tu-154 navigator. > KrasAir has it written into their ops manual, and he told me that it appears > that BAL has it written into theirs as well. This is why I stated that > Russian officials were 100% correct. > >