Richard, as a non-airline pilot I agree.. Nothing makes you sad as losing your license for good as a pilot, but that what you put up with in order to share the privilege of few. I have to say that I pay more attention to my drinking and driving as both can get you in trouble in a job interview. Also, nobody mentioned about the morale of the America West people and the new management that started to make things better for this airline. All the hard work of the new management and the airline to turn the company around, make it on time and profitable again is gone.. The public will not remember America West by their leading position in on-time departure list, or new destinations that they added. But get ready to hear a lot of "Don't book me on America West" stuff by consumers just because of this incidence for a while.. BAHA Fan of AWA's recovery since the management change.. -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On Behalf Of Richard A Whitenight Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 6:42 PM To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Legally Intoxicated America West Pilots I've heard that the aircraft was pulled away from the gate and that they had taxied some of the way to the designated departure runway, but were then told to return to the gate, where they were arrested for Public Intoxication. I'm not a pilot, so I speak from a nonprofessional viewpoint, but if these two pilots were considered intoxicated by any standards, then as a minimum each one should have their license suspended for one year and face stiff penalties by the FAA and also for breaking any municipal or state code for being intoxicated. Part of me would like to see them lose their license for good. This type of unprofessional conduct can not be tolerated, as they are responsible for the lives of those who fly in that aircraft, which includes the flight crew and private citizens using Air West to reach their destination. What are your thoughts? Regards, Richard Whitenight DFW Ambassador Rookie :-)