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If on the other hand you accidentally make your FAX call someone's voice line, the person receiving the call will be inconvenienced, especially if your FAX then re-dials every 5 minutes. The fact that most people will eventually connect the FAX machine to the voice line to allow the FAX to go through and make the calls stop does not mean that you should continue to send FAXes to the voice number. People would just get mad at you. It works pretty much the same way with mailing lists, with the difference that you are calling hundreds or thousands of people at the same time, and consequently you can expect a lot of people to get upset if you consistently send commands to the list address. You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF AIRLINE" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU. You can also tell LISTSERV how you want it to confirm the receipt of messages you send to the list. 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More information on LISTSERV commands can be found in the LISTSERV reference card, which you can retrieve by sending an "INFO REFCARD" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis W Zeuch" <DZTOPS@aol.com> To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: Following recd from jgivens/can anyone help??? > From: jgivens@comcast.net > Reply-to: jgivens@adelphia.net > > > Hey, you know any other way to get hold of the listowner? > > I changed my email address and now all posts go to "moderator" who does > absolutely nothing with them. Emails to "moderator" have gone unanswered as > does > to Geert. Maybe a post to the list explaining the lack of attention to the > care & > feeding of the list might help. > > Thx. >