In a message dated 5/3/02 10:46:34 PM !!!First Boot!!!, dks28@cornell.edu writes: << To say that first class is what is causing the problems the airlines are facing is, in a word, absurd. >> Seems the one class carriers are more profitable at the moment...... and didnt say first class is THE problem-just perhaps its time has come and gone.Like travel agents commissions. Even Crandell says it may be time for some real big changes in thinking (hubs? FF programs? and yes even the sacred upgrade) Dennis