i thought Aloha is doing well with the 737-700s to oakland and orange cty "John W. Swiman" <Rinoflite@aol.com> wrote: Hi group: I think the merger between the two carriers would have been financially sound but on the passenger side it would have been a fiasco! Hawaiian still could be a player in the market as they were in the early 70's and into the 80's if they would go back into the cargo market. At one time Hawaiian was one of the major players for cargo, believe it or not. Matter a fact they had LC-188's based in Miami for a few years doing charter work. And they gave Airlift International (yes Airlift) a real run for their money. As for Aloha they need to get away from the past and the 737 that lost part of the fuselage. They should concentrate on the inter-island market and act as a feeder for Hawaiian. Whereas Hawaiian be the main haul carrier. If they did that then maybe and I say maybe the both will be both profitable and also service the flying public. John Swiman KMIA Joe Pries Commercial Aviation Photography Serving the airline industry with quality photography AOL IM AIRLINE72 http://www.joepries.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage