just an fyi- looking out my livingroom window right now I can clearly see the two huge towers of light coming from downtown which means that anyone at JFK/LGA/EWR and other smaller airports in the area can too- spectacular Joe Pries Commercial Aviation Photography Serving the airline industry with quality photography AOL IM AIRLINE72 http://www.joepries.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email!