Go to http://www.xavius.com/downloads.html and check out especially the O'HARE Emergency. You can read the NTSB record of this incidence at http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20010105X00017&key=1 The file to download it's pretty huge even though it's zipped, but it's worth the download. BAHA