No, I think "minimally verbose" is intended to prevent, for example, that the configure script, in addition to its normal contents, Wow. I had no idea that the little phrase "minimally verbose" was intended to mean that. That does not jibe with any concept of "verbose" that I've ever come across. Unfortunately my brain is not coming up with an alternative suggestion. you could just get at the complete Autoconf sources that way, and then, under the terms of the Exception, use them with any license you want. So, aside from debugging and tracing (those I comprehend), we're trying to say that a configure script can't gratuitiously do stuff like cat /usr/local/share/autoconf/autoconf.m4 >>configure (where "configure" means the appropriate file descriptor :) and then claim that autoconf.m4 is part of the output and therefore is Eligible Code? Hmm. But Brett did not speak about comments and extra white space. I will ask about that. I'm assuming this should be fixable easily, if it even needs to be fixed. Unless there's some interpretation to allow them that I don't see, not fixing it would imply "a burden to remove" for sure. (Although I doubt anyone would actually do it, in practice, which seems bad in its own way.) Thanks, Karl P.S. to all: I will be mostly offline through the end of next week. Back on Monday May 4. _______________________________________________ Autoconf mailing list Autoconf@xxxxxxx http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf