Hello Joakim, Thomas, * Joakim Tjernlund wrote on Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 11:38:54PM CEST: > On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 10:23 -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > > > > > So I see that out builds uses automake 1.4-p6, maybe that is too old? Yes, recent Automake versions do not have this particular rule be verbose. > > Perhaps Ralf could point out when (date and version) fixes were made to > > make the -s option work. I have never claimed that Automake was completely fixed to make -s work well. The problem Joakim reported was fixed though: | commit 3ff71ab7bc12233d01a016974157b12ce354a6b1 | Author: Alexandre Duret-Lutz <adl@xxxxxxx> | Date: Sat Nov 8 14:03:35 2003 +0000 | | * lib/am/depend2.am (?GENERIC?%EXT%.o, ?GENERIC?%EXT%.obj) | (?GENERIC?%EXT%.lo): Do not echo compile command manually, this | breaks `make -s'. Instead, fold the compile command on two lines, | so that it take less space on the display. | Suggested by Karl Berry and William Fulton. Some other rules still output stuff with 'make -s', but they tend to be more rarely used. Also, AFAICS all of them ensure to print a single space at the start of each line, which could be used for an easy filter (if your editor doesn't filter out warnings for you anyway). Otherwise, 'make >/dev/null || make' is a quick help, if a bit inefficient. > > (All I recall at the moment is some long-ago discussion where this feature > > was being refused on the ground that it would make bug-reports harder to > > analyze ;-) Your recollection does not match mine. All I recall is that it was refused to have Linux build-style output enabled by default; and all patches floating around to enable Linux build-style output (whether default or not) had some other problems, mostly they increased Makefile size quite a bit. The issue with making bugs harder to analyze, IIRC, was the enabling of Linux build-style output by default: that hides the exact command line that caused the error. This makes for tedious extra round-trips between the bug reporter and the maintainer. > Funny, we want -s to find bugs! Certainly. > Anyhow, I am upgrading to newer automake but I get a ton of: > ecn_ss/ecn_ppp_bl/Makefile.am:52: pppd_LDADD must be set with `=' before using `+=' > ne/ecn_ss/ecn_ppp_bl/Makefile.am:57: relayd_LDADD must be set with `=' before using `+=' > > Is there any way make newer automake accept those? Well, these errors were added to help find typos in Makefile.am files. You have to initialize the variables before adding to them: pppd_LDADD = pppd_LDADD += ... Hope that helps. Cheers, Ralf _______________________________________________ Autoconf mailing list Autoconf@xxxxxxx http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf
