Would it make sense to add a feature to yum where yum info <foo> would list the Epoch if one existed? I ran "yum info mozilla" on my machine with various internal repos. mozilla-1.7.10 was installed and 1.7.12 was available, but "yum update mozilla" would not install anything. It was not immediately obvious to me that this was caused by the Epoch values inside the mozilla packages. 1.7.10 had a higher Epoch than 1.7.12. I hate Epoch's in RPMs, but sometimes they're needed to override vendor RPMs and this is the case with our internal Mozilla RPMs. https://devel.linux.duke.edu/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=576 Thanks for your consideration. /Brian/ -- Brian Long | | | IT Data Center Systems | .|||. .|||. Cisco Linux Developer | ..:|||||||:...:|||||||:.. Phone: (919) 392-7363 | C i s c o S y s t e m s