The group/comps xml format has tags like "uservisible" and "default" that seem to get somewhat honored (yum grouplist doesn't seem to list groups that have uservisible set to false). However, do these still get updated, is there a way to list these? I guess what I'm looking for is an answer to "what behaviour gets adopted based on which tag in the group xml format"? Thanks, -Peter -- The 5 year plan: In five years we'll make up another plan. Or just re-use this one.