This is really just a comment and some suggestions -- yum in FC 4 is simply lovely. I can see that a lot of suggestions made on list, such as autoretrieval of GPG keys, are now implemented making the use of gpgcheck natural instead of difficult -- easy for the expert, possible for the newbie. repos are now very easy to manage as well (for the expert) and still automagical enough for most newbies. One suggestion (for the FC4-based linux@duke but also for other people running FC4 repo mirrors plus local extensions). At least some repositories, notably livna (which religiously goes on top of FC4 base+updates+extras and is apparently maintained by a lot of the FC developers to provide a channel for those otherwise patent-encumbered packages that we often need and that are actually legal for us to use, but that RH cannot safely support in the distro itself) provide a lovely rpm that basically contains their repo entry: livna-release-4-0.lvn.2.4.noarch.rpm Installing this rpm instantly enables yum to access e.g. nvidia and ATI drivers all RPM packaged and ready to go and updated per FC kernel, xmms-mp3, and other tidbits. My suggestion is that this (and perhaps others like it) is an excellent candidate for e.g. add-ons/duke (or equivalent elsewhere). So that one can go: yum install livna-release-4 followed by yum install xmms-mp3 to add something like this to a system. It's probably dangerous to add a package group of repo rpms since I'd guess that adding ten repos would lead to interesting and possibly dangerous collisions, but having the repo rpms themselves available in a repo collection for a site makes it easy to extend particular hosts without having to e.g. mirror part of livna into a local add-on repo. I also wanted to cheer for repoview. Awesome. I used to have to do yum info \* > /tmp/yum.info to get an idea of what was available, but repoview makes this sort of thing obsolete. I'd go so far as to suggest integrating it with createrepo so it's a one-stop shop. I can't imagine anyone NOT wanting to create an index.html of their entire repository -- even if it will be a local-disk only repo a) it's harmless and wastes a trivial amount of space; b) it isn't a waste of space as web browsers work just fine to a local disk as well. It's getting hard for me to see places where yum could be substantively improved. Debugged, sure (if there are any meaningful bugs left). Documentation can always be improved or extended. GUI front ends for various tasks (e.g. building and maintaining the repo directory and yum.conf) sure, fine. But yum itself is really close to being ready to freeze for all time as a low level tool. Kudos to the developers. rgb -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.dulug.duke.edu/pipermail/yum/attachments/20050812/cb976938/attachment.bin