> Redhat v9.0 > Yum v2.0.4 > rpm v4.2 curiously this does not tell me sufficient information about rpm. Rpm's details of it's version are wrapped up in the release as well, hence why I wanted an rpm -q rpm. > yum list updates does not show vsftpd Attach a yum -d 5 list available and a yum -d 5 list installed to a bugzilla report so I can see what you're talking about. -sv