There's a new version of logger up. It now supports syslog logging quite nicely, IMHO. http://linux.duke.edu/projects/mini/logger/ I'll probably take a look at logging in yum and see how it might be worked in. I won't do anything yet because I expect opinions might differ wildly about what The Right Thing is. I suspect yum could benefit from a slight re-working of the logging though. -Michael -- Michael Stenner Office Phone: 919-660-2513 Duke University, Dept. of Physics mstenner@xxxxxxxxxxxx Box 90305, Durham N.C. 27708-0305